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Topic: Greenleaf Mining Company
Posted By: Anarchist
Subject: Greenleaf Mining Company
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 4:48pm

I have been working for GMC for about a month now. It is a great concept and I think worth a mention on these forums as some of you might be interested. Basically GMC provides probes, finders(according to your prof ranks) and rippers for mining runs (normally 200 ped runs once you get past the three training runs) but all your finds belong to them. All your runs gets tallied up and if in total you are in profit you can withdraw(after cycling a minimum of 1000 peds). 50% of profit is yours.

There are some basic rules. You are required to provide a 200 Ped deposit to start. This deposit remains yours despite your performance. You MUST use LBML for your mining runs. The owner of GMC, Neil Greenleaf Stockton will show you the ropes regarding LBML and explain the basic mining principals to you. http://greenleafmining.com/FAQ/index.html for a list of all the rules and FAQs

This is not easy or free peds but an opportunity at unlimited mining for a 200 Ped deposit. It is ideal for people interested in mining and willing to work at it. It takes patience, time and hard work. I only hit my first hof after 6k peds cycled which took me 2 weeks plus of mining.

You can find the official site here --> http://greenleafmining.com/index.php

A more in depth explanation of the rules, LBLM setup guides and an application form can all be found at the top right hand side menu.







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Posted By: Irindia
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 5:56pm
I'd like to share my experience of GMC too.

After reading a post in EP forum about greenleaf concept, I gave it a look on the site.
I applied, and got contacted within 2 hours.
Greenleaf taught me basics about mining, and gave me 3 training run to let me setup LBML tool.

At this time, I cycled about 1k ped, and I made some sick skill. It's a great experience for people who can't afford to pay themselves if they make a bad run.
With GMC, you deposit once 200 ped (that you can get back anytime if you leave). And you can cycle ped really fast.

Great organization really.


Posted By: Kombinacka
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 6:47pm
So you pay them 200 PEDs and you gain nothing except maybe skills? Doesn't seems as good deal to me.


Posted By: Irindia
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 6:53pm
You don't pay. You deposit 200 ped, so they can trust you to give you 200 ped worth of probe. And if you want to stop anytime, they give your 200 ped back.

Free skill, and if you get positiv run, you get 50% of the profit.
No risk, no fear of loss. I like the way it's made.  :)


Posted By: Kombinacka
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 7:09pm
OK, with 50% profit it makes more sence now :)

But I don't have to think about it, I have exactly 0.00 and 275 shots, so I am thinking where is most chance to hit good global on first shot! :)

But if I will earn something, I will keep it in mind. 

I wonder that people don't cheat. (Though I don't know what is the tool you need to use when mine whith them).

6k PEDs is good enough to lose 200. And EU has good player base, but also good amount of scamers.


Posted By: Anarchist
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 8:07pm
That's why the 200 ped deposit is there. To try and keep scammers out. I am sure you will still get the occasional asshole though.


Posted By: Sluggo
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 11:01pm
So, I put up 200 ped, they provide me with the probes and the tools to mine and I turn over everything I dig out of the ground to them.  If I hit paydirt I get half the profit, if I crap out, they eat the loss?

I don't see how one can lose on this deal really.  do you have to mine where and how they tell you or can yo udo your own runs?

sluggo


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As I have grown older, I have learned that pleasing everyone is an impossible task. Making them mad now, is a piece of cake :)


Posted By: Anarchist
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 11:28pm
Yep. If you constantly have bad runs they will take a look at your runs and try to help you improve your technique. At some point they will let you go I am sure,  in the past Neil had to fire people where they tried to skim ore from the top or scam them. Scammers also don't get their deposit back which in my opinion is fair. He knows how it works and understands that some runs are crap.

They have a well planned map. Worked out what the best mu is for your current depth, so they will tell you where to mine and you need to stay within that area. The areas are quite big so you can move around inside it and drop where you want to. Well they would obviously prefer a good technique. Dropping all your probes in one spot would be bad for them and you.

Check it out sluggo, it really is a good deal.


Posted By: Sluggo
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 11:56pm
Ijust looked into it and yes it does look decent.  I think I will give it a run and see how it goes.  I like the concept and the skill boost, you can't beat that with a stick.

sluggo


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As I have grown older, I have learned that pleasing everyone is an impossible task. Making them mad now, is a piece of cake :)


Posted By: MayBe
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 12:04am
Yeah, you get assigned an area to mine, as far as I can remember.

You wont regret it: Neil is a stand up guy. He helped me a lot when I started. Big smile
And the company has been running successfully, people are really pleased with the opportunity.
Besides the skills and occasional peds, you will learn a lot about mining from one of the best miners on Arkadia. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Anarchist
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 12:11am
Yep, true that. He knows what he is talking about in regards to mining and pretty much any other aspect of entropia I have spoken to him about.


Posted By: Irindia
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 12:43am
I had 0 skill and knowledge about minig but with some key advice Neil taught me a lit about.

Neil ask you to mine a defined place. And time to time he asks you to use a method of minug but you have a lot of freedom beside the place.

It's a win-win organization imo.

Feel free to add anarchist as your referral (or me :D) if you apply at GMC. There is no referal system but it should come in the future !

Thanks to GMC i cycled 1k ped in a week. When my pedcard only could afford 300 ped. I really enjoy this as I'm a non depositer.

Also. Dont be afraid about the 200 ped deposit. You always have 200 ped worth of probe so even if neil ran away, you can't be stolen. The deposit is just a security for him.


Posted By: Kombinacka
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 5:42am
I already spoke with Greenleaf in game, now just to save peds :)
But it is a long way to Arkadia, so I hope I will get lucky! :)


Posted By: Irindia
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 2:53pm
After 1k ped cycled, I've about -130 ped loss.

But it's no problem for greenleaf, and he hopes it'll correct later on.
And for me, it's 0 loss as I don't have to pay for that.


Posted By: Anarchist
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 3:53pm
Just keep going :)

The more you skill the deeper you can get hits and the better the chances of finding proper MU ores. At the start you are basically just building up your skills.


Posted By: NeilStockton
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 7:43pm
Thanks guys for the good summary of how GMC works.

The topic of scammers was mentioned and I just wanted to say a word about that. I've been thoroughly impressed by the honesty and integrity of GMC miners and I think they're the some of the best players you can find in EU. Of course, the opportunity to "earn peds" also draws a few scammers but they get caught and removed pretty quickly.

I receive a lot of applications so I just wanted to outline what kind of players we're looking for: smart, reliable, careful with other people's stuff, and able to play regularly. If your computer can't run EU on medium settings you will probably have trouble running the LBML software. Also of course the 200 PED security deposit is a requirement (I get a lot of applicants asking if I will make an exception... the answer is no). If you love mining and exploring the countryside but hate the stacking and selling aspects then GMC could be a great fit. Also, patience is a must... mining is a lot of hours running interrupted by 5 seconds of glorious golden swirls :)

Have fun out there!


Posted By: Sluggo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 9:44pm
Thank you for the reply neil.

I joined yesterday but fell asleep so will get back in game shortly today here.  working 12  hour days is killing me here.

one question though.

The profit,  is that just based on TT or TT plus MU on the ores that there is MU?

thank you
sluggo.

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As I have grown older, I have learned that pleasing everyone is an impossible task. Making them mad now, is a piece of cake :)


Posted By: Irindia
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 9:48pm
So far for me, every profit or loss have been calculed based on MU.


Posted By: Sluggo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 10:24pm
ok thats good then.
Yes I need to make contact with this invidual and get going then.

sluggo


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As I have grown older, I have learned that pleasing everyone is an impossible task. Making them mad now, is a piece of cake :)


Posted By: Irindia
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 10:32pm
If you have trouble getting into this (setting LBML), feel free to ask me if neil is busy.


Posted By: NeilStockton
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 10:43pm
The way entropia works, long term you won't be able to get out more TT value than you put into hunting, mining or crafting; all of those activities result in a slow decay of TT value (hence the name "entropia" from entropy). We calculate profit as total income (from sale of your ores) minus your total costs (probe use, finder decay, auction fees, etc). That's really the only way to judge "profit" in the game, even though it's a bit more complicated than simply recording "TT returns".

MU makes a huge difference... a deep miner and a shallow miner may both get 95% TT returns but the deep miner could get 15% higher (average) MU per run.


Posted By: Sluggo
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2013 at 1:26pm
Ill be in game on and off today in Arkadia, at the quarry doing payouts.
Ill be heading to Rock here later probably.

Hopefully we can meet up.

I would not mining on Rocktopia as well if you have openings for folks there to do that.
but again, something to talk about in game in person


sluggo


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As I have grown older, I have learned that pleasing everyone is an impossible task. Making them mad now, is a piece of cake :)


Posted By: lours
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2013 at 10:45am
Hi,

very interesting topic as a miner and a good way to go through the bad mining runs... Do you have such an offer on calypso?


Posted By: Irindia
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2013 at 4:44pm
According the GMC website's F.A.Q :

Do I need to mine on Arkadia?
If you receive your probes on Arkadia, I expect you to mine Arkadia. We may have mining opportunities on other planets, so ask me if you're interested in travel.

It's mostly on arkadia, but might happen on caly, get in touch with Neil for more information.


Posted By: lours
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2013 at 6:30pm
ok, ty for the quick answer i will see to do that...





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