All of this points to one thing:

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   Firstly, a bit of a debacle has opened up on Planet Calypso Forum.
Although it would get an Oscar it is likely that only the vocal would have contributed to it's cross-play.

Here are the threads:

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260283-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-1st-Loot-system

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260312-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-2nd-How-loot-calculation-server-creates-quot-Dynamics-quot

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260347-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-3rd-Client-analysis-(part-1-Configuration)

and the end credits:

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260373-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-First-success-of-my-threads-(found-300k-lost-peds)

Although it was a brilliant jaunt reminiscent of the late and great "Sky is failing" threads of old.

There was only one direction it pointed to:

Kim Welter Timkrans

He's on Holiday.

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BBGlobal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Expert Joined: 28 Nov 2013 Points: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote BBGlobal Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: All of this points to one thing: Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 4:08pm
	Firstly, a bit of a debacle has opened up on Planet Calypso Forum. Although it would get an Oscar it is likely that only the vocal would have contributed to it's cross-play. Here are the threads: http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260283-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-1st-Loot-system http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260312-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-2nd-How-loot-calculation-server-creates-quot-Dynamics-quot http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260347-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-3rd-Client-analysis-(part-1-Configuration) and the end credits: http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?260373-Secrets-of-Entropia-Universe-First-success-of-my-threads-(found-300k-lost-peds) Although it was a brilliant jaunt reminiscent of the late and great "Sky is failing" threads of old. There was only one direction it pointed to: Kim Welter Timkrans He's on Holiday.

Sluggo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Expert The One Joined: 21 Aug 2013 Points: 1958	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sluggo Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 8:29pm
	For those of us who are not ancient denizens of EU. What is the significance of that name? sluggo
	As I have grown older, I have learned that pleasing everyone is an impossible task. Making them mad now, is a piece of cake :)

BBGlobal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Expert Joined: 28 Nov 2013 Points: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote BBGlobal Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 8:43pm
	Kim \| Calypso - The founder's Son, current CEO of Planet Calypso It's like when your boss goes on holiday and you ring him up to say everything has gone wrong at work. He gets stressed and enjoys himself thinking he'll kick off when he gets back, only to find nothing is wrong.

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	I'm been starting to pick up on that "wave theory". Was wondering if loot is assigned on-creature-spawn, or on-creature-death. I'm leaning towards on-death. I believe someone would need insider access to know 100% for sure, but we can make educated guesses based on trend and pattern recognition. A good overall time to hunt or mine seems to be when we see the crafting HOFs spamming the screens. If I was MA though, I would populate loot on-spawn, but thats just me.

jqkill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Expert CF Expert Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Location: Left Coast, USA Points: 968	Post Options Post Reply Quote jqkill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 10:31pm
	it has been said by MA that loot is calculated when you loot the creature

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	I've never bought into any theory substantially as it's discussed in a market. One of the things I would have done if I was trying to maintain Dynamics, is that the HP of the mob affects the base value, but the weapons determine which pot the loot roll approaches (net use and cleared volume). I've had times on Rocktropia where it looks like their "planet specific loot" element is disabled, meaning 50% standard, until the local global or hof including planet specific items (might even profit using this method or continuing until local ped clearance). In this respect I'd have rolled the mob during it's death, measured against it's individual chance to hit, the weapon used (it's affinity pot) and also the session time for interaction with that mob (10s kills vs 20s kills - same mob) Also, sometimes the decay on an amp like a Beast favours a long hunt with a repair instead of a half-amp run, other times it's the half amp run that nets a 100%+ return on ped spent, followed by a reduction. The amp is added to the cost of the weapon and only affects the session time on mobs, meaning the timing is more important than ever - Too predictable - shifting times - needs a large sample and higher risk of loss for an individual to notice, groups win.

Abbasi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Earning Joined: 03 Nov 2013 Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Abbasi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2015 at 12:35pm
	Hi, I am unable to open the given links, maybe because the threads have been removed from pcf. I am curious to read them, can any one plz help providing archived / cached path or if some one have saved it can share data. Or at least summarize here what was written in them. Thnx

Wauspaus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Expert Joined: 07 Sep 2013 Points: 1506	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wauspaus Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2015 at 4:53pm
	Seeing as this is a thread from 1.5 years ago, I am assuming people don't remember exactly what was in that one. Since the thread being reffered to spawns every so often on the PCF forum. When a thread is over 6 months old, just leave it where it is :) Dead :)

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	I would agree on the loot calculated on looting based on the amount of times it takes a second or two to generate some of the loot. However, it seems to me that since the party loot is based on participation it would have to be split from something that was already generated. What are your thoughts. I know it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, but inquiring minds want to know.

Jameson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Earning Joined: 05 Mar 2015 Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jameson Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 2016 at 9:57pm
	The time taken to generate the loot is most likely lag due to loading of loot images