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Topic: Tips for hunting? noob here?
Posted By: Xanious
Subject: Tips for hunting? noob here?
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 2:34pm
Hello. I was wondering if anyone had some tips for a noob looking to hunt? I hunted (thanks to an outdated guide) daikaba juveniles, to a loss. I can handle L4 and lower mobs pretty easily (i have a sollomate rubio, and a opalo). Any tips on what I should hunt, or where? Thanks a lot in advance for any help :D



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Posted By: UnderDog
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 2:51pm
honestly my advice is this:

Stick with Daikaba, Puny anything, and Exarosaur's til lvl 5-7ish, then you can do argo's, berycled, up to lvl 10ish.

at this point (lvl 10) I started finding the Traeskeron's around my lvl, and hunting them (just backup and shoot, and stay out of their hit range)... I completed the whole Iron Challenge based around them by lvl 22... and got a couple evade lvls in the process.

that's just what I did.  Also, hit up the missions... there are a few... like the droid one near Oddyseus, that you can kill the jammers in PA, and complete.  There is also a rippersnapper one around there, that can be done on smaller rippers near PA.  

Missions will help immensely lower level.

I think actually Ark is more hunter friendly from lower levels... that is just my opinion though.


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Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 3:09pm
Alrighty then. So basically hunt, hunt and hunt till I am of higher level, then try to find a profitable mob? Also, what has the best drop rate of ammo at lower levels, diakaba, bercyde (hate those things), or ?


Posted By: StMzzaaFidai
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 4:32pm
>Forget what eco hunting is .... just take gun you like and kill things you like... As a noob i spent 50$ in 2 days coz i thought its not important what you shoot xD


Posted By: Alkhzar
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 4:53pm
I've been hunting for a good minute, and I'll share some of the things I learned in the process!!!Clap

1. You should decide which branch of weapon you want to use. Don't switch too often,
because you will end up losing in the end. It's best to specialize in one branch to maximize your efficiency as a hunter. 
Here is a basic rundown on different types of offensive skills: 
http://www.entropiadirectory.com/wiki/choosing_an_offensive_skill/" rel="nofollow - http://www.entropiadirectory.com/wiki/choosing_an_offensive_skill/

DON'T be a jack of all trades, for he is the master of none.

2. Become familiar with SIB. Here are some SIB charts that will help you get started.
http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?165740-New-SIB-Weapons-Charts" rel="nofollow - http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?165740-New-SIB-Weapons-Charts

Although not the most efficient way to hunt, taking advantage of SIB will greatly increase your rate of
skilling. You WILL gain levels much faster, and in turn, you can hunt stronger monsters. Usually, the
tougher the hunt, the more loot you will get.

3. When using guns, make sure two have two of them. Your primary weapon should do a lot of damage.
Your secondary weapon should do very little. The reason for this is that you DO NOT want to overkill an enemy.
That is a waste of money, and VERY inefficient. Why use your strong weapon that costs more to shoot than your
weak weapon that costs very little for the same result? Use your primary weapon to nearly kill your enemy,
then use your secondary weapon to finish it off. 

Trust me, you WILL be a more efficient hunter!

4. Now you must choose your enemy type. There are organic creatures and robotic creatures.
Organic creatures are more abundant and are the recommended things to hunt. When hunting
them, you will slowly gain your Evade Skill which helps you do avoid other organic creatures' attacks.
However, evade WILL NOT help you against robotic creatures. Hunting them will yield you a small amount of Dodge Skill.
This WILL help you avoid robotic creatures' attacks, but it won't help you avoid organic creatures' attacks.
I'd say specialize in one or the other. the more you divide your skills, the more money and time
you spend in the end.

5. Get as many hunting quests as possible. Although doing hunting quests are often inefficient, you might end up completing
one or two by just hunting. It that case, you will get rewarded for just hunting!!! I don't recommend trying to finish
quests unless you only have a few left to kill.Just make sure to get them anyway.

6. Choose if you want to hunt naked or with armor. Hunting naked seems to be the preferred way to hunt at earlier levels,
because the decay on armor can become costly. Also, it would be preferred if you have a good grasp of all the concepts I
mention here before deciding if you want to use armor. Yes, you can hunt stronger creatures, but the decay
most times outweighs the return, but sometimes you get rewarded (rarely at early levels). I'd say hunt the creatures
you can kill without armor. You don't have to worry about armor decay, or getting armor sets. IMO, it makes you focus even more on just hunting.

7. Should you get a healing tool (FAP)? Most hunters carry a healing tool. I see this at all levels of hunting. I'll explain the
reasoning for this. Without a healing tool, you would have to kill a mob, then rest for a bit to hunt again. This isn't so bad if you are patient.
Also, it is very efficient, since there is no healing tool decay. HOWEVER, there WILL be times when a mob will kill you. In this case,
you would have to respawn and go back to that location where you died to find the mob that killed you. By then, the mob you were hunting has healed,
and now it will cost you more to kill it. Sometimes, other mobs can spawn near you while hunting, and will attack you.
It's up to you if you want to use a FAP. They are very cheap at low levels.

8. Do some research about certain mobs. Find out what creatures you should be hunting for your level.
You don't want to fight creatures that are too strong, and too weak. Typically, your ideal hunt will be a creature
that you can kill without using armor or healing. Once you get a new weapon, try hunting something bigger!

9. LEARN about TT, MU, and the auction House. This is VERY important to learn. Once you get a good grasp of these,
you can end up profiting even at low levels! Try not to sell your looted items at the TT. Check the MU value and determine
if it's worth the auction fee. The auction house is your best friend, it's there for you, so utilize it! If the AH isn't an option,
try to trade with fellow Entropians! Remember, a quick buck will almost always make you lose in the end. 
Be patient, and you WILL be rewarded.

10. Take advantage of shared loot creatures. These creatures migrate all the time around Calypso.
Sometimes you will see many people hunting a shared loot creature. That's when you should join in and hunt them!
There are so many getting hunted that, there is a greater chance of getting a global or HoF!!! 

11. Good Luck! You're going to need it! Remember this: This game is not a winning game unless you play smart.
You won't make any money just playing this game. You have to do your research and play as efficiently as possible.
Learning the auction house is big step in profitability.
Either way, make a plan and stick with it!


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Posted By: Alkhzar
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by StMzzaaFidai StMzzaaFidai wrote:

>Forget what eco hunting is .... just take gun you like and kill things you like... As a noob i spent 50$ in 2 days coz i thought its not important what you shoot xD
Lol some people arent depoing tho!!!! some have limited funds. Plus, this is the wrong game to play if you wanna just go terminator style lol. 


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Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 5:00pm
Thanks for the info. Auction house is right within my skill set, being a wow player. My main question is, how do I stay liquid ammo wise?


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Thanks for the info. Auction house is right within my skill set, being a wow player. My main question is, how do I stay liquid ammo wise?

try not to sell to TT, save up enough to sell to players or (if you save alot) to auction orders or put on auction house (lowish stacks usually sell for above avg MU)


Posted By: Krystme
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Hello. I was wondering if anyone had some tips for a noob looking to hunt? I hunted (thanks to an outdated guide) daikaba juveniles, to a loss. I can handle L4 and lower mobs pretty easily (i have a sollomate rubio, and a opalo). Any tips on what I should hunt, or where? Thanks a lot in advance for any help :D

Before you start reading all those complicated formulas and ecuations that thease guys writen. COME TO ROCKTROPIA hunt vixen, and after you can handle vixen you can hunt other mobs, that is my advice.

1 go to rock
2 next to club neverdie there si a parking lot
3 on the parking lot hunt only the 10 hp vixen ONLY THE 10 HP VIXEN
4 sell the gear at the acording mu 
5 hunt the vixen whit cheap as sh*t MK-1
6 study study study


Posted By: Krystme
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 5:17pm
PS: other stuf from vixen besides gears you can sell at TT.



Posted By: Tia
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Alrighty then. So basically hunt, hunt and hunt till I am of higher level, then try to find a profitable mob? Also, what has the best drop rate of ammo at lower levels, diakaba, bercyde (hate those things), or ?
A profitable mob is a myth. If you are hunting, or even mining or crafting, forget about profits.

At a higher level you can start gambling for big HOFs. Afterall EU is a casino.


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 5:47pm
I will +1 vixens on RT (save the gears) and the tiny scoutbots (junk scout bots I think they are called) on cyrene (save the basic targetting chips) are the best noob mobs to hunt

both of these loots have extremely high markup


Posted By: Alkhzar
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by Krystme Krystme wrote:

Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Hello. I was wondering if anyone had some tips for a noob looking to hunt? I hunted (thanks to an outdated guide) daikaba juveniles, to a loss. I can handle L4 and lower mobs pretty easily (i have a sollomate rubio, and a opalo). Any tips on what I should hunt, or where? Thanks a lot in advance for any help :D

Before you start reading all those complicated formulas and ecuations that thease guys writen. COME TO ROCKTROPIA hunt vixen, and after you can handle vixen you can hunt other mobs, that is my advice.

1 go to rock
2 next to club neverdie there si a parking lot
3 on the parking lot hunt only the 10 hp vixen ONLY THE 10 HP VIXEN
4 sell the gear at the acording mu 
5 hunt the vixen whit cheap as sh*t MK-1
6 study study study

Lol i didnt write down any formulas! I don't think anyone did! I just gave him tips from my hunting experience that I believe every hunter should know. You can go and just hunt an eco mob, but it all depends on if you are trying to save money, level faster, or just have fun. My tips will basically fulfill all three.


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Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 6:18pm
one thing to expand on #8 by alkhazar -- if NOONE is around the mob after you die and are sent to revive (ZERO other green dots) the mob WILL NOT regen until you get back to within radar distance


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 7:17pm
Great. Whats a good eco mob on calypso to save money on? I started collecting sweat as well


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 7:23pm
I would say sabakuma - theres a pit wave event north of PA, or there (should be -- not sure if its changed) a crapload of hatchlings around half moon bay up north -- if you need any help I'll be in-game in a few hours - Test Jqkill Muffin - look me up and PM or friend request (make sure I'm online before requesting friend or it will bug and we will be stuck in limbo never to be friends)


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 7:31pm
Sounds good. I only have a sollo mate rubio and opalo, I hope those are sufficient to kill some hatchlings


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 7:33pm
more than


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 10:14pm
Sounds good. Any mentoring is much appreciated. What time will you be on?


Posted By: Sluggo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 12:34am
Cyrene has some nice puny mobs that give decent loot.  They are also a daily mission so you can get some small skills rewards from them as well.  Some of the stuff they drop has decent MU as well.

If you want to mine Cyrene has a daily mining mission as well that rewards skills,  this is a NICE mission there.    They also have a daily crafting mission that does the same thing but I would not recommend it until your crafting is up say 5 or 6 levels or you will end up dropping a lot of ped.   Crafting is not an easy skill to master and you should weld on a ship if you are serious about wanting to craft.

Welding is also one of the cheaper ways to finish your mentorship as well,... there are cheaper ways but ill not get into them here.

Another nice. and about one of the ONLY reasons to visit that filthy rock anymore is, rocktopia at southern gate, you can sweat haters for decent sweat BUT you can also pull a train on mobs for nice skills.

You get a few of them to beat on you and chase you to the gun turret.  While they are pounding on you, you will earn defensive based skills, you bring them to turret, they get shot, you rest/heal up and repeat.

sluggo




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Posted By: Krystme
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 6:08am
Originally posted by Alkhzar Alkhzar wrote:

Lol i didnt write down any formulas! I don't think anyone did! I just gave him tips from my hunting experience that I believe every hunter should know. You can go and just hunt an eco mob, but it all depends on if you are trying to save money, level faster, or just have fun. My tips will basically fulfill all three.
Dude i was just bored and wanted to help the guy make a sure profit :D.
That stuf you said is 100% wright

I just focus on profit 


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 3:16pm
Also just want to mention, I'm on calypso


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 4:44pm
are you xanious morvak awesomeess?


Posted By: Krystme
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2014 at 7:38am
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Also just want to mention, I'm on calypso

you can move to any planet Smile


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2014 at 11:27am
Yes thats me. Xanious morvack awesomeness. I just went on vacation, so I won't be back to the entropia universe for a while (typing this on my phone). I know I can move planets, just taxi services are 8 ped, which is a lot of in game money for a noob .


Posted By: zobadias
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2014 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Yes thats me. Xanious morvack awesomeness. I just went on vacation, so I won't be back to the entropia universe for a while (typing this on my phone). I know I can move planets, just taxi services are 8 ped, which is a lot of in game money for a noob .


Then sadly you found one of the more expensive services.  There are plenty of people that will give rides for less.  Just make sure that you have the ped to get to the planet.  Also, many times you can find a free ride by just reading the chat at icarus or twin peaks.


Posted By: Wauspaus
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2014 at 2:07am
There are people who take passangers with them for free since they go anyways or just ask for 2PED
or something. Do keep in mind, that traveling from one planet to the other takes time. Slightly over an
hour with a sleip or about 45minutes in a quad, during this time you CAN'T log out, because in a sleip
or a quad you will get thrown out of the vehicle and end up stuck on a space station.



Posted By: UnderDog
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2014 at 2:42am
dont think it NEEDS to be said, but make sure to carry no lootables in space, ESPECIALLY if hitchin a free or discounted ride :)


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Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 5:32pm
I'll certainly keep that in mind. The old guide I read said to do sweating so your evasion goes up as the creature attacks you. Is this still a good idea?


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 5:40pm
sweating mobs still gives evade, yes


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 6:55pm
Another question. How do skills work? Is it like normal mmos where the higher your attack (ranged laser damage in this case), the more damage you do, or is it like skyrim where you level it up, and have unlockables? Or something else?

Another question, assuming its not against game rules, could I just delete my account, make a new one, and start on rocktopia? (or where ever you recommend trying to eco hunt)


Posted By: Tia
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 7:33pm
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Another question. How do skills work? Is it like normal mmos where the higher your attack (ranged laser damage in this case), the more damage you do, or is it like skyrim where you level it up, and have unlockables? Or something else?

Another question, assuming its not against game rules, could I just delete my account, make a new one, and start on rocktopia? (or where ever you recommend trying to eco hunt)

How do skills work?
Skills are subsets of professions. Professions are directly linked to the tools (weapons, mining gears etc) you can use effectively. Higher the profession, bigger tools you can use. e.g. you can use a big gun which does more damage; means you can kill a bigger mob. At the end it translates into gameplay costs. Bigger tools demand more money.

New account?
Don't throw away the skills you have already acquired. That will be foolish. Its better and way cheaper to "fly" to the planet you desire.


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 7:41pm
damage dealt is a factor of your weapon - when you max a weapon (both hit and damage saying 'not anymore') you do max that that weapon can do - as your professions increase you get maxed on better weapons which (as Tia said) cost more to use

I will be flying to ark this afternoon (approx 3 hours from this post) if you want a free ride

-Test

edit: actually I have more than enough oil, I'll fly you wherever you want


Posted By: MayBe
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

The old guide I read said to do sweating so your evasion goes up as the creature attacks you. Is this still a good idea?
- Sweating solo will give you more skills and a bit sweat (evade from physically attacking mobs, and dodge from mobs with a ranged attack).
- In a sweat circle, you will get much more sweat, but less skills.
- Swunting solo is a nice way to keep your costs down, while gaining skills.
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

Another question, assuming its not against game rules, could I just delete my account, make a new one, and start on rocktopia? (or where ever you recommend trying to eco hunt)
You are only allowed to have 1 account. So you can ask support to delete your current account, and then create a new one that starts on RT.
But as has been mentioned before: you will start from zero again. It would be easier to look for a (free) lift from someone who is flying to RT.

Also, I must say: RT is not the best planet to start on.
Even though Gears are a great MU loot: it's nice to go visit RT for that, but it's not a good reason to go start on that planet.
I know there has been a lot of 'advertising' for Vixen Gears farming on the Rookie channel.
But that has made a lot of newbies decide to go there: resulting in too many hunters on a too small spawn.
I was there last week, and there was consistently a bad hunter/mob ratio. 15 players on 5 Vixens is not helping to create a fun a friendly atmosphere (screaming/cursing/KS).
The influx of offer also has made the MU of Gears go down.

As far as I was able to see, for someone starting on RT, there isn't much else to do but Vixens, solo sweating and oil picking. 
The starters I spoke there, were forced to TT their loot, because the AH/market is so small.
So: RT is nice for a visit, but not as a starting point.
Caly is a better place to start, even with their nerfed puny. At least there you can get the Vivo S10, have sweat circles, and a big AH. In other words: much more options.

But imo Arkadia is still the best planet to start on.
The puny are still 10 HP, with loads of spawns right next to the Quarry TP.
The Caraboks give more (evade) skills than any other puny.
Like Caly, there are also daily sweatcircles with free healing.
You get a free (green) outfit in the starter missions, so you can get out of the OJ quick.
All the missions can be picked up from a single point; so no running around trying to find NPC's.
And after graduating, you receive an Adjusted Musca as reward. While from all the other planets you receive an Adjusted Pixie.
Musca has a bit better balanced protection, looks better (imo), and has a much better MU.

But yeah, I admit: I'm biased towards Ark. It's a smaller, friendlier planet to me. Wink
Nevertheless, a majority will agree; it's the best choice to start on.

Other threads about setting out on Ark:
http://forum.entropiapartners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=611&KW=arkadia&title=caly-to-arkadia-migration-for-a-newbie" rel="nofollow - Caly to Arkadia migration for a newbie
http://forum.entropiapartners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=674&KW=arkadia&PN=1&title=question-for-people-on-ark" rel="nofollow - Question for people on Ark

Some skill links: 
http://www.entropedia.info/Chart.aspx?chart=Skill" rel="nofollow - Entropedia 
http://www.entropedia.info/Chart.aspx?chart=SkillAct" rel="nofollow - Professions vs skills
http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?58637-Skills-and-Health" rel="nofollow - Skills and Health
http://jdegre.net/pe/unlocker.php" rel="nofollow - Chipping Optimiser  


Posted By: Krystme
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2014 at 5:56am
Traveld for free whit Mcready mother ship


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2014 at 1:50pm
Ok then. So ark sounds like a good planet. So combat skills (like ranged lazer damage) basically make it so your can use bigger and better weapons, but doesn't help directly with damage calculation. Id love to accept the free ride to ark I was offered, but unfortunately I'm unable to accept, still being on a get away till tuesday.
Hopefully I can go to one of the places you guys mentioned and snag a free ride to ark. how is the best way to change weapons when in combat? I am planning to use my opalo as my main weapon and my rubio as the "finish them! " weapon. Any other tips for a noob wishing to hunt? I really appreciate all the help so far, and I am excited to sitting down and getting my hands back on the game.


Posted By: jqkill
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2014 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by Xanious Xanious wrote:

how is the best way to change weapons when in combat? I am planning to use my opalo as my main weapon and my rubio as the "finish them! " weapon.

press G L I

G opens the keyboard map, L starts 'edit mode' and I opens inventory

drag your two weapons to keys on the keyboard

also fine (if you havent already) 'toggle auto-use' in the actions library (Y) and add that to your keyboard

look through other actions in the Y library - there are a bunch of useful things in there


Posted By: Xanious
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 8:30pm
Great. So what do you think should take priority right now? Sweat farming to up my defensive skills, or trying to hitch a ride to ark?



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